Open Thread on “Settling,” Marriage and Relationships

Lori Got­tlieb, “Marry Him! The Case for Set­tling for Mr. Good Enough”

This arti­cle is from a while ago, and I’m not sure whether I agree with it fully or not. I obvi­ously think the lessons hold for women and men, but that the author telling us about her per­sonal expe­ri­ence can’t be gen­er­al­ized too much. Still, I don’t pay much heed to the “as you get older, the mar­ket favors men” argu­ment. Being lonely sucks, and get­ting older and stay­ing lonely sucks worse, regard­less of gen­der. I’d rather not make this a he said/she said game and instead get to the ques­tion of whether we have the right atti­tudes or not. It seems like some­thing we should def­i­nitely dis­cuss in the com­ments, to wit:

What I didn’t real­ize when I decided, in my 30s, to break up with boyfriends I might oth­er­wise have ended up mar­ry­ing, is that while set­tling seems like an enor­mous act of res­ig­na­tion when you’re look­ing at it from the van­tage point of a sin­gle per­son, once you take the plunge and do it, you’ll prob­a­bly be rel­a­tively con­tent. It sounds obvi­ous now, but I didn’t fully appre­ci­ate back then that what makes for a good mar­riage isn’t nec­es­sar­ily what makes for a good roman­tic rela­tion­ship. Once you’re mar­ried, it’s not about whom you want to go on vaca­tion with; it’s about whom you want to run a house­hold with. Mar­riage isn’t a passion-fest; it’s more like a part­ner­ship formed to run a very small, mun­dane, and often bor­ing non­profit busi­ness. And I mean this in a good way.

I don’t see many arti­cles — includ­ing ones that are more real­is­tic — stress the self-evident bor­ing parts of liv­ing together. But I think what’s really inter­est­ing is how com­pli­cated our mind­sets regard­ing rela­tion­ships are:

I thought that the per­son I mar­ried would have to have a sense of won­der­ment about the world, would be both spon­ta­neous and grounded, and would acknowl­edge that life is hard but also be able to nav­i­gate its ups and downs with humor. Many of the guys I dated pos­sessed these qual­i­ties, but if one of them lacked a cer­tain degree of kind­ness, another didn’t seem emo­tion­ally sta­ble enough, and another’s val­ues clashed with mine. Oth­ers were sweet but so bor­ing that I pre­ferred read­ing dur­ing din­ner to sit­ting through another tedious con­ver­sa­tion. I also dated some­one who appeared to be highly com­pat­i­ble with me—we had much in com­mon, and strong phys­i­cal chemistry—but while our sen­si­bil­i­ties were sim­i­lar, they proved to be a half-note off, so we never quite felt in har­mony, or never viewed the world through quite the same lens.

It’s easy to con­demn the author and for­get just how artic­u­late and self-reflective she is. Most of us are prob­a­bly being really picky about rela­tion­ships and not even know­ing it. At the same time, I do won­der if some of us are being picky enough. I know some women and men who’ve got­ten into bad sit­u­a­tions because of mak­ing their cri­te­ria too lax to begin with. Still, “set­tling” itself is pretty hard, all things considered:

And no mat­ter what women decide—settle or don’t settle—there’s a price to be paid, because there’s always going to be regret. Unless you meet the man of your dreams (who, by the way, doesn’t exist, pre­cisely because you dreamed him up), there’s going to be a down­side to get­ting mar­ried, but a pos­si­bly more pro­found down­side to hold­ing out for some­one better.

So I do encour­age you to read the arti­cle and com­ment here, because I’m inter­ested in the truth of these reflec­tions and other ques­tions we can raise.

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  • I got mar­ried very young so I don’t think I have a lot in com­mon with this woman, but I do have more than enough to say on the sub­ject– I won’t bore ya’ll with all of it.

    I didn’t see get­ting mar­ried as “set­tling” AND I don’t believe in the 1 true love thing. My hus­band and I are com­pat­i­ble in many ways, but my main require­ments, while fairly obtain­able were absolute. I think they would have remained that way no mat­ter how old I got. I absolutely required that my spouse be kind and have the abil­ity to con­sider other people’s feel­ings. I also could not vol­un­tar­ily live with a man who had sub­stance abuse prob­lems and my hus­band nei­ther drinks, nor takes any drug stronger than an asprin.

    I also hated dat­ing and lacked the matu­rity to do it respon­si­bly. I partly got mar­ried to save myself, but that’s an unre­lated issue.

    I don’t think it’s ever a good idea to set­tle in some areas. If a guy is intel­li­gent and funny and well off and a com­plete jerk– I don’t see the point. A dull mar­riage might be bet­ter than none, but being sin­gle is a good deal bet­ter than being stuck in a truly bad marriage.

    The author believes things would have been eas­ier for her had she mar­ried and calls her friends out for com­plain­ing about their mar­riages. I think this is just a con­tin­u­ing of her unre­al­is­tic ideals regard­ing marriage.

    Being mar­ried is not easy. She may think that an extra income and a help­ing hand with chil­dren and house­hold chores would come along with mar­riage. This is not nec­es­sar­ily true. If your spouse trav­els for work or never leaves his/her office or becomes dis­abled or plain refuses to earn a liv­ing you lose these ben­e­fits. These are not super rare occur­ances. I know mul­ti­ple women in each sit­u­a­tion and have been in one myself. Addi­tion­ally, as mod­ern and civ­i­lized as they claim to be, most men still don’t even think about house­work or cook­ing or any of the messy parts of child-rearing; they’re just things that some­how get done when they’re not look­ing. (This is not to say men are exclu­sively a bur­den in mar­riage as plenty of women turn out to be lazy as hell or to lead you down the stereo­typ­i­cal route into huge debt… or both.)

    Any­way, my point being: In my opin­ion, if you want to be mar­ried then it’s ridicu­lous to wait for some mag­i­cal des­tined thing that prob­a­bly doesn’t even exist (and I def­i­nitely know that you will find vary­ing degrees of phys­i­cal chem­istry with dif­fer­ent peo­ple, but I also know that it usu­ally, if not always fades and isn’t a very smart thing to base your deci­sions on), but it’s also very impor­tant to have gen­uine love for the per­son you marry. Some peo­ple might seem like they’d make a good part­ner, they may be tidy and inter­est­ing enough and bring in good money, but if you don’t love them enough to take care of (and clean up after) them when they’re sick and sup­port them when they can’t bring up their end– in any­thing– and to accept them when they react very dif­fer­ently to tragedy or stress than you do, and to be will­ing to com­pro­mise on some very impor­tant issues then you should not be mar­ry­ing them. You’ll either be mis­er­able for life or more likely, your mar­riage is not going to last.

    *Dis­claimer: my mar­riage is not per­fect and has had lots of prob­lems, some of them have been huge. Maybe I don’t know what I’m talk­ing about, but the arti­cle linked to does strike me as a lit­tle imma­ture and short sighted.

  • omg that’s ridicu­lously long, I’m sorry.

  • When we were lit­tle kids we used to choose “best friends” for the day or week–remember those “cir­cle yes or no” notes we got? I think mar­riage is meant to be a best friend note that lasts for a lifetime–with passion/chemistry to spare. Team­work. But the strangest part of it is that both in the part­ner­ship grow and change and some­times not nec­es­sar­ily together. I don’t have any answer for this except “work”(or “rejec­tion” which isn’t mar­riage). We can be dif­fer­ent and still blend–think “harmony.”

    I appre­ci­ate the arti­cle you ref­er­ence because it is an attempt to look at the nuanced expec­ta­tions we have and eval­u­ate how impor­tant they are to the whole.
    I think every mar­riage is totally dif­fer­ent since it is defined by two dif­fer­ent souls–in a unique concoction.

    One-sided loy­alty is worth­less in a part­ner­ship. This is what is meant by “com­mitt­ment” and “set­tling.” In order to have the best mar­riage, you really have to know your­self and what is most impor­tant to you, and then think about whether you could give up some of those things for some­one else. Some­time in any mar­riage you are bound to have to recon­sider your own dreams, in order to show gen­uine love for your part­ner. “In sick­ness and health, for richer or poorer…” We need to find out what is most impor­tant to our partner.

    Mutual giv­ing makes any rela­tion­ship beau­ti­ful but it is mean­ing­less with­out mutual tak­ing too. If one part­ner is always tak­ing, I could not call it marriage–it is slow par­a­sitic death.

    Just for the record–some of the most lonely peo­ple I know are mar­ried. Get­ting involved in other people’s lives is the best cure–especially if you run into some­one with sim­i­lar dreams and pas­times! ..And dare to share your­self. I think we all have to con­stantly bal­ance our­selves to keep going…

  • I think the author starts to make a lit­tle sense, but then draws entirely the wrong con­clu­sion. She rec­og­nizes (cor­rectly) that maybe you shouldn’t hold out for your One True Soul­mate Who Com­pletes You Per­fectly In Every Way, as such a per­son is almost cer­tainly non-existent, but she doesn’t seem to think that a rela­tion­ship with any­one other than that silly ideal could pos­si­bly be based on real, ful­fill­ing, love. She seems to think her only options are find­ing myth­i­cal Prince Charm­ing or giv­ing up and mar­ry­ing the next schmuck who pro­poses because at least it’s bet­ter than being single.

    Is it “set­tling” to marry some­one with an imper­fec­tion or two, or who isn’t quite 100% com­pat­i­ble with your per­son­al­ity? Is some sort of pla­tonic Will and Grace part­ner­ship the best you can hope for? I think most mar­ried cou­ples would tell her she is quite mistaken.

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