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	<title>Comments on: Maybe we&#8217;re looking at education wrong. Maybe it&#8217;s student-athletes that are the model for any given student</title>
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		<title>By: Vince Magruder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vince Magruder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 18:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, I encountered your blog while researching the &quot;character courses&quot; dimension of the &quot;Blind Side&quot; saga.  Your mention--and concern about--Oher&#039;s &quot;disinterest&quot; in the works &quot;Great Expectations&quot; and &quot;Pygmalion&quot; struck a personal chord with me.

Throughout my academic career, and professional life, I have grudgingly read &quot;fiction&quot; of that sort, when required to in high school and undergrad.  Did pretty well in it...in fact, earned a 99th percentile on the English CLEP exam at the age of seventeen, plus got nearly as high scores on teh English Lit and American Lit subject CLEP exams...

But after &quot;having to&quot; read fiction, I rarely have after that time.  Nonetheless, I was the honor grad in poli sci/history and undergrad, earned a law degree, and did quite a bit of doctoral work before getting offered a nice position in consulting.

Fiction and literature appeal to some people, but not to others.  If a hypothetical student loved those aforementioned courses, but hated studying government and history, is that wortthy of condemnation?  Nah.  People are different.

When I heard of the BYU option, I was reminded of the &quot;Kobayashi Maru&quot; test immortalized in Star Trek....in esssence, &quot;how does one win in a situation that is de facto completely UN-winnable?&quot;  The Trek solution was basically &quot;Change the Conditions of the Test.&quot;

Some would call that cheating; I would deem it ingenious, and finding a viable way around an inherently silly (and ultimately discriminatory, from a socioeconomic sense in Oher&#039;s case) requirement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, I encountered your blog while researching the &#8220;character courses&#8221; dimension of the &#8220;Blind Side&#8221; saga.  Your mention&#8211;and concern about&#8211;Oher&#8217;s &#8220;disinterest&#8221; in the works &#8220;Great Expectations&#8221; and &#8220;Pygmalion&#8221; struck a personal chord with me.</p>
<p>Throughout my academic career, and professional life, I have grudgingly read &#8220;fiction&#8221; of that sort, when required to in high school and undergrad.  Did pretty well in it&#8230;in fact, earned a 99th percentile on the English CLEP exam at the age of seventeen, plus got nearly as high scores on teh English Lit and American Lit subject CLEP exams&#8230;</p>
<p>But after &#8220;having to&#8221; read fiction, I rarely have after that time.  Nonetheless, I was the honor grad in poli sci/history and undergrad, earned a law degree, and did quite a bit of doctoral work before getting offered a nice position in consulting.</p>
<p>Fiction and literature appeal to some people, but not to others.  If a hypothetical student loved those aforementioned courses, but hated studying government and history, is that wortthy of condemnation?  Nah.  People are different.</p>
<p>When I heard of the BYU option, I was reminded of the &#8220;Kobayashi Maru&#8221; test immortalized in Star Trek&#8230;.in esssence, &#8220;how does one win in a situation that is de facto completely UN-winnable?&#8221;  The Trek solution was basically &#8220;Change the Conditions of the Test.&#8221;</p>
<p>Some would call that cheating; I would deem it ingenious, and finding a viable way around an inherently silly (and ultimately discriminatory, from a socioeconomic sense in Oher&#8217;s case) requirement.</p>
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