Look up on youtube:
songbird mccain
mccain’s mansions
no end in sight
bill moyers big oil

Do some research on Sarah Palin who’s gonna be a heartbeat away from the presidency.

Personally I would vote for a third party if I was certain that McCain was going to lose. For now, Obama is just the lessor of 2 evils. Oh, and yes Laurence, the patriot act abomination that takes away American’s right to privacy is a Republican child.

j/k

:)

“And if the people of the UK are, by and large, like you (which I doubt they are)”

Can anyone say they represent the majority of their country? I’m just a person with my own opinions. But I can honestly say that most British blame the U.S for our bad image internationally. I wasn’t aware that the British “issues” with Muslims had become common knowledge around the rest of the world.

“how does it feel that the majority of the people of America can own up to the fact that their country is going through a hard time and we’ve made some mistakes while you and probably a few other people decide to blame all of your problems on America”

How does it feel? Pretty good actually, it’s always nice to have someone to blame things on. Although I object to the “all of your problems part”. I freely admitted that we treat Muslims poorly and this is our own fault. Also I said “woefully ignorant” referring to the UK’s economic problems, to show that I wasn’t at-all sure who is to blame for the UK’s economic problems. I was hoping you would enlighten me, rather than insult me.

I’m equally to blame, but it strikes me as sad that these things always turn into pissing contest. It seems to become less about who can provide the most logical argument, and more about who can put the other one down better. Instead of trying to learn from each other, we simply try to be “right”, so we can convince ourselves we don’t have to.

It was probably wrong of me to go off on one against Willy , whether he was being racist or not. And maybe Sec is right and the U.S doesn’t have any bearing on the problems of the UK (although I don’t agree with this point of view).

But when the debate turns to calling each other “childish” and “desperate” and saying things like “in terms you understand”. It stops being enjoyable.

So I’m out, you win.

There are hate crimes everywhere in every country, some more varied than others. But, despite what your liberal media probably tells you, the extreme racists such as the KKK are a minority in our country.

Now, when you take the whole quote, and not just part of it, it changes the context:
“The biggest reason is because the rest of Europe is slowly becoming a bunch of Muslim nations with numbers there on the rise faster than ever before. The UK has done certain things to deter this, even if it just in attitude toward Muslims. This is the biggest reason, among many others, not the least of which, admittedly, is the association with us.”

In terms you can understand, he basically said the exact same thing I did; ‘The UK has done certain things to deter this, even if it just in attitude toward Muslims.’ To simplify it, the UK treats Muslims bad and that’s why the UK looks bad.

And if the people of the UK are, by and large, like you (which I doubt they are) then how does it feel that the majority of the people of America can own up to the fact that their country is going through a hard time and we’ve made some mistakes while you and probably a few other people decide to blame all of your problems on America? That seems pretty childish to me.

The Unions are all ways looking for better wages, that’s their job. I’m woefully ignorant on the economy, but I understood that is was problems with sub-prime mortgage investments in the U.S that gave our economy it’s issues in the first place!

@willy: “The biggest reason is because the rest of Europe is slowly becoming a bunch of Muslim nations with numbers there on the rise faster than ever before.”

People like you make me sick. BTW exchange “Europe” for “US” and “Muslim” for “Black”.
And you could be posting on a KKK forum.
People like YOU are the reason that U.S is hated by the rest of the world. I’m guessing the chances of you voting for Obama are roughly 0. Your obvious Racism reveals that you can’t even start to see the big picture.

BTW, the fact that you care more about your country’s international image than you do about its well-being ruins your credibility in my eyes.