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	<title>Comments on: &quot;That Time of Year,&quot; Indeed: Shakespeare&#8217;s Sonnet 73 as an Introduction to New Criticism</title>
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		<title>By: Kadoos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kadoos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2011 07:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Ashok, Happy New Year to You. it is a nice analysis. I am a lecturer, teaching poetry and need such analysis for myself and my students. Please let me know if have some more analyses on Shakespeare and other poets. I will be happy to have your mail ID because I may send some of my poems for your observations.
My ID is Kadousian@yahoo.com
Best regards
Kadoos</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Ashok, Happy New Year to You. it is a nice analysis. I am a lecturer, teaching poetry and need such analysis for myself and my students. Please let me know if have some more analyses on Shakespeare and other poets. I will be happy to have your mail ID because I may send some of my poems for your observations.<br />
My ID is <a href="mailto:Kadousian@yahoo.com">Kadousian@yahoo.com</a><br />
Best regards<br />
Kadoos</p>
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		<title>By: Naomi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Naomi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Oct 2010 20:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you. I have been reading and re-reading this poem. I like the way you break it down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you. I have been reading and re-reading this poem. I like the way you break it down.</p>
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		<title>By: Mitchell Allen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mitchell Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 19:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stumbled for the instructive tutorial!

I am considering the commentary of Felix de Villiers: howw much responsibility do we have, as novice critiquers, to understand the context in which a piece of work exists?  Given that you suggest we dismiss gossip and etc. regarding the author, should we not also dismiss contexts and critique the piece on its own merit?

Cheers,

Mitch</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stumbled for the instructive tutorial!</p>
<p>I am considering the commentary of Felix de Villiers: howw much responsibility do we have, as novice critiquers, to understand the context in which a piece of work exists?  Given that you suggest we dismiss gossip and etc. regarding the author, should we not also dismiss contexts and critique the piece on its own merit?</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Mitch<br />
<span class="cluv">Mitchell Allen´s last [type] ..<a class="0dc2562cb5 5996" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/morphodesigns/~3/jd8vsqN5EOE/">Seven Hyper Links</a></span></p>
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		<title>By: Gary Baker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 10:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for introducing me to a new way of analyzing poems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for introducing me to a new way of analyzing poems.</p>
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		<title>By: Felix de Villiers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Felix de Villiers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 09:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A very thoughtful and helpful way of thinking through a poem. Yet,you dig out the conceptual implications of the poem, whereas poetry seeks to transform conceptuality with all the poetic means at its disposal, and I lke to see these reflected in an interpretation.

 I have made a tentative attempt at such interpretation in the topic Some Notes on Poetry in my group Poetry and Prose n my Facebook, which should be available to you

I don&#039;t feel up to such an attenpt just now with this Sonnet, but here are some throwaway thoughts:

The sonnets belong in a cycle and it&#039;s difficult to separate them, as you show when you make a comparison with &quot;the marriage of true minds&quot; in your second consideration. Many interpreters make a beeline for this last Sonnet, because it makes them feel morally comfortable. But it&#039;s high principles are undermined by the sequence as a whole.

In the last couplet we know that the speaker is deluded in thinking his approaching death &quot;will make thy love more strong,&quot; since we know that his love throughout the Sonnets will remain unrequited.

Peter Ackroyd, in his Everyman&#039;s History of English literature has an interesting interpretation of the Sonnets. He sees them as indicative of Shakespeare&#039;s relationship to his dramatis personae. He is continually effacing, abasing himself because he gives life to his chracters at his own expense. To make them live he must renounce, even die. They will behave as they please in his despite.

I have quite often come across people who feel that the closing couplets, don&#039;t live up to the rest of the Sonnets. Ackroyd agrees in seeing them as proverbial additions, but finds them moving for this very reason, because symbolic of the speaker&#039;s self-effacement. I don&#039;t think this is always true, but Sonnet 73 is a powerful poem if you read it up to the end of the third quatrain. Then a piece of proverbial wisdom is added.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very thoughtful and helpful way of thinking through a poem. Yet,you dig out the conceptual implications of the poem, whereas poetry seeks to transform conceptuality with all the poetic means at its disposal, and I lke to see these reflected in an interpretation.</p>
<p> I have made a tentative attempt at such interpretation in the topic Some Notes on Poetry in my group Poetry and Prose n my Facebook, which should be available to you</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t feel up to such an attenpt just now with this Sonnet, but here are some throwaway thoughts:</p>
<p>The sonnets belong in a cycle and it&#8217;s difficult to separate them, as you show when you make a comparison with &#8220;the marriage of true minds&#8221; in your second consideration. Many interpreters make a beeline for this last Sonnet, because it makes them feel morally comfortable. But it&#8217;s high principles are undermined by the sequence as a whole.</p>
<p>In the last couplet we know that the speaker is deluded in thinking his approaching death &#8220;will make thy love more strong,&#8221; since we know that his love throughout the Sonnets will remain unrequited.</p>
<p>Peter Ackroyd, in his Everyman&#8217;s History of English literature has an interesting interpretation of the Sonnets. He sees them as indicative of Shakespeare&#8217;s relationship to his dramatis personae. He is continually effacing, abasing himself because he gives life to his chracters at his own expense. To make them live he must renounce, even die. They will behave as they please in his despite.</p>
<p>I have quite often come across people who feel that the closing couplets, don&#8217;t live up to the rest of the Sonnets. Ackroyd agrees in seeing them as proverbial additions, but finds them moving for this very reason, because symbolic of the speaker&#8217;s self-effacement. I don&#8217;t think this is always true, but Sonnet 73 is a powerful poem if you read it up to the end of the third quatrain. Then a piece of proverbial wisdom is added.</p>
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		<title>By: Abhijeet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abhijeet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 20:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is a great way of analyzing poems. and i will try using this method to analyze poems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is a great way of analyzing poems. and i will try using this method to analyze poems.</p>
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