Comments on: Is Politics Reducible to Rhetoric? http://www.ashokkarra.com/2007/02/is-politics-reducible-to-rhetoric/ On Poetry, Politics and Philosophy - A Sketch, An Intersection Wed, 08 Feb 2012 08:43:17 +0000 hourly 1 By: Gracchi http://www.ashokkarra.com/2007/02/is-politics-reducible-to-rhetoric/comment-page-1/#comment-131 Gracchi Sun, 18 Feb 2007 11:39:00 +0000 http://www.ashokkarra.com/?p=110#comment-131 What do you make of the idea of policy say in the Taciteans at the end of the 16th century as against law? Their argument was that policy was a descriptive term for actions that a King took when the law was inadequate to provide for the state- in a sense the American revolution and certain of the democrat critiques say of the Patriot Act are critiques of policy from the standpoint of law- that's not to say they are right. But is that a useful conceptual distinction to employ.<br/><br/>I must go back to the City and the Man- I read it very quickly last year for a reading group but never really grappled with it properly. I've been prejudiced against Strauss by reading lots of Quentin Skinner unfortunately!<br/><br/>Despite my ignorance of Strauss I'm trying to work out some of the topics you've looked at here on my own blog... I'll link back to you so hopefully you'll see a technorati track back but I think this relationship between reason and rhetoric is interesting. What by the way do you make of Mandeville and Vico and their theory of state creation in this context- M holds I think that states were created by a wise statesman, Vico by father/priest figures? There is a sort of rhetorical power latent within the Machiavellian idea of virtu as well. Sorry long comment. What do you make of the idea of policy say in the Taciteans at the end of the 16th century as against law? Their argument was that policy was a descriptive term for actions that a King took when the law was inadequate to provide for the state- in a sense the American revolution and certain of the democrat critiques say of the Patriot Act are critiques of policy from the standpoint of law- that’s not to say they are right. But is that a useful conceptual distinction to employ.

I must go back to the City and the Man- I read it very quickly last year for a reading group but never really grappled with it properly. I’ve been prejudiced against Strauss by reading lots of Quentin Skinner unfortunately!

Despite my ignorance of Strauss I’m trying to work out some of the topics you’ve looked at here on my own blog… I’ll link back to you so hopefully you’ll see a technorati track back but I think this relationship between reason and rhetoric is interesting. What by the way do you make of Mandeville and Vico and their theory of state creation in this context- M holds I think that states were created by a wise statesman, Vico by father/priest figures? There is a sort of rhetorical power latent within the Machiavellian idea of virtu as well. Sorry long comment.

]]> By: The SJ Libertine http://www.ashokkarra.com/2007/02/is-politics-reducible-to-rhetoric/comment-page-1/#comment-126 The SJ Libertine Tue, 13 Feb 2007 23:10:00 +0000 http://www.ashokkarra.com/?p=110#comment-126 I'll look at this more fully as soon as I'm done this pot of coffee and a therapeutic soak in the tub. I’ll look at this more fully as soon as I’m done this pot of coffee and a therapeutic soak in the tub.

]]> By: Josh http://www.ashokkarra.com/2007/02/is-politics-reducible-to-rhetoric/comment-page-1/#comment-125 Josh Tue, 13 Feb 2007 20:10:00 +0000 http://www.ashokkarra.com/?p=110#comment-125 Wow, I'll be reading that over and over to see if I can fully grasp at what you're saying. Wow!<br/><br/>My weekend was good, sorry yours sucked. You'll see in a later post, I hope. I am glad you left a post. Reading the stupid is never fun, if you know what I mean.... Wow, I’ll be reading that over and over to see if I can fully grasp at what you’re saying. Wow!

My weekend was good, sorry yours sucked. You’ll see in a later post, I hope. I am glad you left a post. Reading the stupid is never fun, if you know what I mean….

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